tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26514945.post5854539167694882448..comments2023-06-07T01:35:34.896-07:00Comments on Tuesdays With(out) Torii: Be Careful What You Wish ForKaiserhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03367888053225351327noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26514945.post-20549425412389185292008-01-30T10:03:00.000-08:002008-01-30T10:03:00.000-08:00I guess I am believing in this report more than th...I guess I am believing in this report more than than the early reports, yes, because it seems like more of a done deal (even though it's not technically finalized). I would have vastly preferred the Hughes-Cabrera deal if it was true -- I just have doubts that it was.<BR/><BR/>As for signing him last year early, I'm with you there. But the waters are equally murky there -- how do we know we didn't try? Best guess is that we did, and likely offered him EXACTLY WHAT WE DID NOW. We just accomplished the same thing with Morneau and Cuddyer, so we think that we just decided not to do it with Johan for some separate reason? Lastly, last year wasn't Bill Smith's watch -- it was TRyan's. <BR/><BR/>I'm trying to muster some anger towards the front office, but I just can't.Kaiserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03367888053225351327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26514945.post-45180871822291438412008-01-30T09:43:00.000-08:002008-01-30T09:43:00.000-08:00Wait...you think THIS deal, which has been reporte...Wait...you think THIS deal, which has been reported from the begining, was "guessed" correctly...but not the other two?<BR/><BR/>All indications, from the same sources that reported on the Mets deal, are that Hughes and Melky Cabrera were on the table. As well as the Boston packages headed by Ellsbury or Lester...but never Ellsbury AND Lester. <BR/><BR/>And my point isn't that we should have traded Santana AT ALL. We should have signed him last year, early. We were waiting for what, exactly?Hopshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13550655405985722691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26514945.post-38757757237024141582008-01-30T09:34:00.000-08:002008-01-30T09:34:00.000-08:00The problem with this whole thing is the only thin...The problem with this whole thing is the only thing we firmly KNOW was ever on the table is THIS deal. How do we accurately know what was ever on the table before? You have total trust in the media reports? I don't -- at least, not enough to stir up much angst against Bill Smith (at this point). I'm not trying to say he's not Phuck -- I'm just waiting to see if he's Phuck or McLovin.Kaiserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03367888053225351327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26514945.post-67736015601814083262008-01-30T09:22:00.000-08:002008-01-30T09:22:00.000-08:00Santana and his agent may have made this diffifcul...Santana and his agent may have made this diffifcult, but the fact is that there was more on the table earlier in the process (Hughes) and Phuck elected to wait and see if something better came along. That's on him.Hopshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13550655405985722691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26514945.post-21917226555548646202008-01-30T09:16:00.000-08:002008-01-30T09:16:00.000-08:00This DOES suck, but I find it hard to blame Bill S...This DOES suck, but I find it hard to blame Bill Smith.<BR/><BR/>Maybe my "facts" are wrong, but I've now heard a few times that there was a $100 million dollar offer on the table to Johan. And I guess we'll see what happens, but it looks like (shockingly, I know) the Mets will be able to give him somewhere closer to the 6 years, $150-$175 million range. <BR/><BR/>So, in all likelihood, our options at this point were to trade him now for this deal (because the Rox and Skankees pulled the big pieces off the table the past week and because Santana's agent demanded a deal IMMEDIATELY or they would go to free agency), or to lose Johan to free agency and we get a couple of draft picks. Sounds like Bill Smith did the only thing he could to me -- don't hate the players, hate the game.Kaiserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03367888053225351327noreply@blogger.com